Teaching and Learning in a Virtual World

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# Stewart Ross said on March 26, 2008 9:58 PM:

I enjoyed very much today's presentation of Second Life.  I must say I was surprised by the amount of time we spent here at Minnesota State in preparation.  Although I had no trouble downloading it I could not get on the site.  As it turns out, my computer automatically put my real name in the log on where it asked for my name.  Little did I know that it wanted my Second Life name!  I finally got on today after figuring this out.

So, I think this brings up an important point.  We can't expect folks to know what to do at first without good explanations.  Worse yet, my computer did me in by putting the wrong name in the box which led me to think the computer knew best.  Kind of like the computer Hal in the movie 2001 where he decided to take over.

Anyway, it was fun seeing my colleagues trying to fly around the site and getting "antsy" just like in the real world.  

I have been lucky to have been introduced to this by Don a year ago when I visited him.  Recently I attended a conference in the LA area and learned even more about it.  I also have played my share of video games as my son grew up and I think that helped me understand movements of avatars etc.

I must say, I have been surprised by the lack of knowledge and interest in Second Life on my campus.  Many in IT barely know about this and most faculty I talk to know little.  When I try to explain they roll their eyes with that holier than thou attitude that faculty are so good at creating.  Just yesterday I was talking to a long time faculty member who wanted to know what was so bad or wrong about students sitting in a classroom and working on learning in that environment.  He made clear he had no interest in this technology and would never consider it..."would never work for me" was his comment.

I began to wonder if maybe this is no different than faculty who tell me they can't use active learning techniques, them must lecture since there is so much material and it has to be dry, that is just the way it is.

Although I see the dark side of Second Life I was see the dark side of traditional lecture, or using only active learning and groups and on and on.  It seems as faculty (and faculty developers) we owe it to ourselves and more importantly to our students to explore every possible alternative for learning.

To dismiss anything without experimenting with it ourselves is fooling.  It would be like saying you hate the music of Stravinsky having never heard any of his music!  (Sorry, you know I'd have to share one analogy to music).

I am glad our COPPER group got a chance today to do a bit of experimenting.  I did think we might have done more exploration in Second Life but then we can always to that on our own.  In some ways it might be more helpful to trip around on our own for awhile before getting expert advice.  We would have more "aha" moments that way!

OK.  That is all for now.  I look forward to other responses by COPPER folks and others.  Thanks to Don and everyone else who helped us experiment with Second Life.  I just hope Third Life does not come out before I have this figured out!!!

Stewart Ross

Minnesota State Mankato

# Don Margulis said on March 27, 2008 7:28 PM:

Thanks for the thoughtful response Stewart.  You raised a number of interesting issues.  I was talking with a member of our history department recently about human response to change over the centuries.  He more or less agreed with my observation from a psychological viewpoint that in general people tend to resist change.  Most people are creatures of habit, and one of the best ways to avoid having to change is to find fault with whatever is new.  

I think with regard to adapting to new technologies things will eventually take care of themselves.  Nationwide, the majority of faculty in college and high school are over 40, and we’re already seeing a lot of retirements at our school.  Over time younger faculty will be joining our ranks and many of them will have grown up with these technologies and will be very comfortable using them.  Those who anticipate retiring in the next few years can probably get by without having to face these issues. I think the greatest challenge will be for current faculty that will still be teaching five or more years from now.  It’s likely that they will feel increasing pressure to make use of various technologies in their teaching.  

I dropped into our Second Life conference area last evening and began chatting with another avatar that was hanging around.  I’m someone who did not grow up with video games and virtual worlds and was a teacher first who developed an interest in these technologies late in my career.  The individual I was talking with described himself as a “gamer” who is wants to become a teacher.  He is in college preparing to teach elementary school and currently had an internship in a 5th grade classroom.  Might he be representative of the next generation of teachers?

One thing I would be interested in knowing from our comments is if the experience of interacting in a virtual world was qualitatively different from just conversing via the phone in a traditional conference call?  Was any value added, or can you imagine how value might be added with the use of both technologies?

Don Margulis

Middlesex Community College

# Linda Jacoby said on March 28, 2008 10:15 PM:

Thank you so much for the guided tour in Second Life on Wednesday.  It was very helpful to learn how to visit various areas, sit in a chair and get up and down to introduce ourselves—and I especially enjoyed the Vassar area. I’ve spent just a few hours in SL and find it all personally fascinating—the opportunity and ability to be whoever you want to be and do pretty much whatever you want to do in another life is amazing.

However— I too am concerned about the technical side of the program—it seems to have very specific requirements (my three newest computers—one less than 6 months old—won’t run it; only one of my oldest—several years old—does), not all of our campus computers will run it and I’m guessing (based on my personal experience) many student computers won’t as well. So I think there are some very practical issues involved with putting together even a pilot project on campus—something that it sounds like you faced as well in the beginning.  Couple that with the fact that as Stewart mentioned, even our IT people aren’t familiar with it yet on our campus, and it’s hard to visualize SL becoming a useful tool for teaching here anytime soon.

One of the things I would like to learn more about is what the real advantages are to using SL (or gaming in general) to meet learning objectives and what objectives and outcomes justify what looks like an enormous investment in time (learning time, curriculum design time, classroom orientation time, etc.).  If it’s just more fun than sitting in a physical classroom . . .     I suspect that it does provide learning experiences that nothing else can, but I just don’t know how or what yet I guess. I look forward to learning more. Also, as you mentioned, it’s better to get a head start than have to catch up later.

It was a great experience—very helpful and a lot of fun. Thanks so much!

Linda Jacoby/Shaddow Smythe

Minnesota State University, Mankato

# Kim said on March 30, 2008 1:19 PM:

Hi, everyone.  This is a test of the comment function of the blog.

# Judith Kamber said on March 31, 2008 11:24 AM:

This was a very interesting experience and thanks to Don for making it possible for us to engage in this experiment. I was away during the time that it was necessary to set it up but my assistant Chris generously agreed to take this on. She is very computer savy and she said it required a conisderable amount of time to set it up and there were a number of technical problems. On the day of the call, while we were in the virtual world my computer froze us out and we had to log in again on a different computer. Aside from that it was a very interesting experience. What surprized me was how quickly I began to relate to my character (Hashana Temple) It was simply fun moving her around and frankly when I found I could make her fly I had trouble paying attention to much else. There was a dream like quality to the flying. I also found she had feelings (well-I did) At one point she was sitting alone so I moved her to sit next to someone else and then that character moved. I was a little hurt. When I was recounting the story at dinner that night my brother suggested that maybe Hashana had virtual BO. I also found myself feeling quite delightfully childish as I moved her around (I wanted her to mis-behave) which is fact not unlike how I often feel anyhow and that suggests to me how easily it is to transfer one's characteristics to a virtual character (I'll bet the psychologists in the group have fun with that one)

I am still not sure how this is used for teaching but I would be interested in learning more. Again thanks to Don for making this possible.

# Dona Cady said on March 31, 2008 12:31 PM:

As a cheerleader for virtual world use in education, I was excited that our Copper group pushed the virtual frontier.  Although I mainly use MMORPGs in class, I have now begun to offer an opportunity for exploration in Second Life to my Introduction to the Humanities students.  I realize that there will always be a learning curve with new technology and even some resistance from faculty, administrators, and students alike, but immersive environments do offer a rich variety of “3-D” experiences that are missing from the casual study of a picture or video.  Can a virtual visit to the Sistine Chapel truly compare to the real? Perhaps not, but the trip sure is cheaper!  

# Don Margulis said on March 31, 2008 1:21 PM:

Just testing.  Some of my comments have not been appearing.  Ah, the joys of techology

# Don Margulis said on March 31, 2008 5:38 PM:

Judith, I loved reading your response.  It captures what the experience is like for many students and demonstrates part of the power of the technology.  Many people quickly identify with their avatar.   Our avatar’s experience in these worlds can evoke real emotions and stir the imagination.  Because of this factor, virtual worlds more than any other current technology create a sense of presence, not unlike what we experience in real life.  In addition, while other technologies also allow us to communicate, in virtual worlds we can “do” things together.  

They also have a playful, freeing quality that you experienced and that students love.  I’m probably much more spontaneous and playful in these spaces then I am in the classroom, and students respond to that.  I did some informal research one semester and kept track of the number of times I had lengthy (45 minutes or more) conversations with students related to course content.  There were six such conversations that occurred over the course of the semester.  Two took place in my on campus office, the other four took place in “Active Worlds” (our virtual world at that time).  And I was only using Active Worlds in one of my classes.

I wonder how Second Life would work as part of an online version of “Teaching in Community” at Northern Essex?  A virtual retreat?

# Shelley Steenrod said on April 1, 2008 9:29 AM:

Hi All,

I only have a few minutes before class so this will be on the brief side but I really wanted to thank Don and his crew at MCC for all of the work that went into planning the Second Life tutorial.  I don't think it would have worked nearly as well without all of the pre-planning and pre-communication.  

Following the event itself, I was really struck by both the potentiality of the venue and the very real challenges.  On the one hand,  it really adds another dimension to all of the virtual communication we already do.  On the other hand, I felt awkward and disoriented much of the time.  I kind of left feeling like Second Life is kind of like snow boarding ... if I was just 15 years younger I'd probably pick it up...

Anyway, just some early reactions.

TC,

Shelley  

# Don said on April 1, 2008 10:37 AM:

Linda, you raised a number of important issues in your post.  I want to try to respond to them in a follow-up message.  While I think it’s natural that we focus on the immediate issues of how this technology might be used in our teaching and what technical obstacles might stand in our way, I think there is a larger question that faces us.  Will virtual worlds  continue to be one of the options we have in our technology teaching toolbox along with PowerPoint, podcasts, Blackboard (or another course management system) and other current tools, or will its impact be more pervasive, much like email or the Internet itself?  Might it become one of the primary ways that we communicate and interact with family, friends, colleagues and students when we’re not physically together?

I think we’ll have a much stronger sense of where we’re headed with this technology in the next two to three years.  In the meantime, for hundreds of thousands of people in the world (maybe more like millions) that question has already been answered.  They’re spending 20+ hours per week in these spaces.  What’s interesting is that this phenomenon is not strictly based in the United States.  Virtual Worlds are quite popular in parts of Asia, particularly Korea and China.  There are some villages in China where the primary source of income is from the sale of virtual currency and objects (a $500 million dollar international business). It will be interesting to watch how this all unfolds and in some cases we might choose to become part of the process.

Shelley, in response to your experience of feeling awkward and disoriented much of the time, part of that is the newness of the experience, and part is my fault.  We could have met in a much more basic virtual world where the learning curve was much gentler.  I chose for a number of reasons to have us visit the most complex (and popular) of the virtual worlds used for education.

When I mentioned to Constance Steinkuehler, a well known virtual world researcher, that I was planning to bring a number of educators new to virtual worlds into Second Life, and that I was feeling a bit nervous about doing so, she had an interesting reply.  She said I should be nervous, that you would all be overwhelmed!

I think all things considered you did a great job getting set up for the event and managed quite well with this new experience.  Feeling awkward and somewhat confused is quite natural.  Fortunately, I've found it's a state that passes fairly quickly if we choose to spend more time in these environments.  It's a bit like visiting a new country for the first time.

# Donna Killian Duffy said on April 1, 2008 9:22 PM:

It was fascinating to participate in the Second Life session and it has been equally fascinating to keep the conversation going on the blog.  Thanks to all for sharing impressions and especially to Don for serving as our guide through this new terrain.  My own impressions during the session center on themes of struggle and sensory experience.

First, the struggle.  I appreciated the complexity and the variety of the virtual world but my initial feeling was, OK—this is interesting but I really don’t want to struggle. Just tell me exactly what I need to do.   Like Shelley, I was feeling awkward and disoriented and did not like either feeling.  Yet, learning involves a certain amount of struggle and disequilibrium.  I wanted the learning without the struggle.  This has helped me as I returned to the classroom this week and listened to student concerns about ongoing projects.  I had a much greater appreciation for their uncertainty and realized the value of placing myself into new settings where I need to struggle to deal with basic information.  Trying to gain better understanding of these new virtual worlds will certainly provide an ongoing source of uncertainty!

Second, I thought a lot about other senses as we moved around the world.  I wanted to touch the trees or listen to sounds or smell the grass. I wondered if the chairs in the conference room were comfortable for sitting. In fact, I became much more aware of other sensory aspects of the world as I was taking a walk later in the day.   The visual dimension of the Second Life spaces and the chance to see multiple visual perspectives was quite amazing, but I missed having my other senses to help in forming impressions.  I reflected on a recent book entitled, Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children from Nature-Deficit Disorder, where author Richard Louv notes that children’s connections to nature have diminished due to more extensive attention on electronic media.  There is a balance, and I hope that we can learn from the opportunities of a virtual setting without becoming alienated with the natural world.

# Peyton Paxson said on April 2, 2008 1:50 PM:

The technology worked well on my end, but I was also at the host institution at the time.  Due to a shortage of computers, I didn't directly participate, which is just as well, as Duffy had already criticized my avatar's appearance.  (Apparently, he's a little too 21st century for the good woman.)

My most immediate interest in educational uses of virtual worlds is in my Popular Culture courses.  However, upon reflection, I'd like to use them in my Criminal Justice courses as well.  Students could participate by developing a crime scene.  (No, it doesn't have to be splattered in blood.)  Other students would have to identify some of the critical evidentiary issues present at the scene.  This could be as simple as asking students to inventory the important issues displayed at the site.

# Don Margulis said on April 5, 2008 9:56 AM:

Linda, I wanted to address several of the practical questions and issues you raised in an earlier post related to potential academic applications and some technology concerns.

Regarding the academic usefulness and advantages of virtual worlds, I’ve sent a number of resources via email to the leadership members at each college which may be of some value and I’ll continue to post resources on the “Beyond the Screen” blog for that purpose.  One of the best ways to answer the question of educational value is to explore and see what others are doing.  However, because there are so many potential uses for this technology it’s helpful to first ask a few basic questions, such as what class do we have in mind (is the course in the classroom or online); do we want to focus on reinforcing content, or use the space primarily for community building and collaboration; is our preference to use this environment during a portion of the semester or on an ongoing basis; are we interested in using existing spaces or do we want to create our own, etc.

Regarding the technical challenges, we have choices.  Second Life is one of the more demanding virtual worlds in terms of computing power and the complexity of the interface.  While it’s probably the most popular environment for educators at this point, there are other worlds that might make for an easier transition.  “Active Worlds Educational Universe” is one that we’ve used at our college in the past.  You can teach a novice the basic navigation, communication and building skills in that space in one session (no special technical skills required).  “There.com” is another world that is a good place for those new to this technology to practice their skills in navigation and communication (more of a social space).

However, even Second Life is quite manageable with most of our more recent computers.    Often it’s a little glitch that is preventing the programs from running, such as the example Stewart gave where the wrong name was inserted.  All technologies have their frustrations, even the ones that have been around for a while.  It can be a little tricky getting set up, but once that is taken care of, it’s easy to log in.  Depending on your student population, some students may have better computers than we do, particularly if they use them for playing games.

I think the best way to begin is to just explore the environment, become more comfortable with the interface and use these spaces initially for our own social networking.  Using a virtual world with students can come later. Once you’ve created an account, you’re free to explore different environments, and meet other educators who are doing the same.  Some will be new to Second Life like you and feel a bit awkward and others will be veterans who can offer assistance.  It’s really not until you’ve done some exploring that the possibilities become real.   There are a number of professional educational groups that meet regularly on Second Life.  For example, I just attended a meeting of community college educators in Second Life and we brainstormed how to develop a parcel of land for educational purposes and some ways to structure experiences in Second Life for students.  For some of us, a better approach might involve becoming more comfortable in this world by exploring a personal interest such as music.  There are frequent live performances by both classical and popular musicians that take place in various Second Life venues, and there is even a Second Life ballet company (I know that’s a bit hard to imagine).  I think what impresses me most about the Second Life environment is the energy and creativity of its inhabitants.  They have a sense of being pioneers in a technological movement of potential significance and it’s exciting to feel even a small part of that experience.

The issue regarding our computers is an interesting and important one.  At our college, and I suspect many more, the majority of computers that have been purchased are “business class” rather than “multimedia” class.  That is, they are fine for email, surfing the web and word processing, but they’re not designed for rich multimedia.  Given that more and more of our educational technology tools will be media rich, the business approach of purchasing entry level computers where one size fits all simply won’t work.  At our college we're in the process of replacing all our computers in the next couple of years, because   most of them can’t even meet the needs of the new operating system (Vista), much less demanding educational software.  I find that while many IT staff know their technology when it comes to networking and highly technical issues, they may not always be on top of the latest trends in educational computing.  There is a difference.  If you have key individuals at your school involved in organizations such as Educause (technology and education) and the International Society for Technology in Education (host of our online meeting area), then they’ll be aware of these issues and better prepared for the future.

The key limitation with regard to most of our current computers is the lack of what’s called a “dedicated video card.”  Second Life, simulations and other highly visual media place significant demands on a computer’s video capabilities.  The good news is that desktop computers can be easily upgraded by adding a video card, which we’ve done on several of computers at our school.  However, Second Life should run on newer computers without this upgrade.

This is a somewhat lengthy response, but actually just a quick stab at addressing some of your excellent questions.  There are complex issues involved, but I find the best way to start is just by jumping in and exploring a bit, and having a little fun with these tools.  There’s no pressure or expectations to use them at this point, which is the best way to develop technology skills in my opinion.  Otherwise we can get so overwhelmed by what seem like difficult obstacles that we back off before giving ourselves the opportunity to fully investigate the potential of these new technologies.

Don Margulis

Middlesex Community College

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